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the infamous cookie infamous

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he is infamous

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he is

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nine years old

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he's a maltipoo

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he's got healthy shoes all the time

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most of a minor

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although he did tear both of his

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ligaments in his knees

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and

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he recovered thanks to a homeopathic

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doctor right cook

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right

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and his girlfriend moved away

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a couple of years ago brought a new girl

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over the other day he did not like her

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because she kept bumping them out of the

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way

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but

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anyway all right

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you ready to listen to some ufo stuff

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that's a no

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all right

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kelly's the only one that likes cookie

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all right let me get rid of there are no

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photos

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so i am on camera the entire time

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just let me know if there's any sound

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issues and i will start with jeffrey

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he wrote a book with whitley

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that last lecture was

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really good because they were different

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voices with different opinions

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he said he's most and he

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i'm not even sure what he works he works

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at he's uh

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at temple university

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and he had an experience with whitley

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i'm sorry i need to just get a drink so

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he had a he had an experience with

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whitley up at esselon

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drove by a couple of years ago and

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wanted to just take a look but they

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would not let us in unfortunately

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so jeffrey went there with whitley slept

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in the same room

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i think he woke up to some like some

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ridiculous crashing noise i'm not sure

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exactly what it was

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it was enough for him to call it an

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oh actually

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thank you walker i

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walker dale i think it's the first one

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i've ever had thank you so much i didn't

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even know it was available to do because

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i was waiting for the approval so

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and questions hopefully i'll get to them

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i'm going to try to hurry up here thank

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walker walker

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so cripel says he's most interested in

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the weird uncanny or impossible and i'm

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gonna i'll do a better version tomorrow

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morning on twitter or on my site

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if you ask questions or whatever and i

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miss it i'm just trying to get through

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all this information it's so much

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he goes he thinks anomalous experiences

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and and social are related to social

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mutation which is kind of what jim

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semivam was saying

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you know are they kind of trying to

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shape us with these events

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culturally

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trying to get us to stop our evil

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destructive ways

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he thinks it's human contact with a

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whatever you think or believe is all

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wrong or hopelessly inadequate

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and he thinks that our humanity whatever

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i think on a psychic spiritual level he

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thinks that may be the source of all of

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this not on a jungian level where we're

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creating this with our consciousness

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because he talks about that later he

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says i don't go that far but somehow

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somehow we're have we're creating this

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somehow not that it's just coming out of

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maybe the beings are interacting with us

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psychic and that's not the right word

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psychic is not the right spiritual

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spiritual is not the right word anyway

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two things radar and revelation that's

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what you need to understand ufos

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skeptical sciences scientists are not

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entirely wrong to reject this study as

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study of ufos he goes but series of

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series serious study of ufos

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makes sense and i can attest to that

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theories i have the more i'm not sure

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about anything and i've heard so many

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different theories from people i trust

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and most of it is contradictory but most

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of them that i speak to will say they

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and don't base your study just on hard

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because you want to study ufos you need

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to study study everything and that's why

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awsap was so important and james

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lutkatsky was great because that's what

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he pushed reed to study for everything

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he said the most difficult part ufos

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consider this a threat in our government

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he's like if you have a hammer all

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you're going to see is nails you know

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the primary primary data is collected by

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people in the dod so that's how they're

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and they expectedly expectedly they

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designed to shoot down enemy objects so

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that's their point of view not all of

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them but you can't blame them doesn't

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mean i agree with them

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whitley his good friend

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and the question was did whitley's you

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horror writer before he had his

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wolfen got made into a movie there was

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him made into a movie so he's really

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writing spawn his interpretation of the

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visitor experience and whitley said of

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aspect that was real and striebert said

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meaning you know our cultural and pop

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want to see i think i've seen it twice

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he was that whole thing board is on

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profound borders around the paranormal

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nice it can feature awe terror

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which i looked up there's lots of words

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i always have to look up the big words

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he said we should approach ufos more

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like a rival and less like war of the

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worlds but we don't do that we focus on

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anecdotal there's so many anecdotes in

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it's part of the it's part of the story

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i would get a big strike copyright

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never seen the bill hicks documentary

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and i'm so glad i saw it in theater

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now here's tom with the weather

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you should see that movie so good

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mushrooms how it changed his life him

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narrative we'd have about them would be

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different maybe not but

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he goes instead it's all based on

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separation and nationalism i think he

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borders he didn't say nationalism um but

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that there is not the slightest

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it's diffic and i wish i hope michael's

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world type themes judgment day because

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accounts and that's why i said whitley

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at his cabin before people would have an

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experience earlier in the day they would

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see their dead relatives just out in the

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street oh look and then oh that means

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i'm gonna have an experience tonight

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you know why why do they show up you

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know and then he talked about hastings

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how ufos are concerned with nukes

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and contactees say and they've been

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saying this forever

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you know

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they somehow they they get these beings

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the visitors the other others activate

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an apocalyptic idea in their heads

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um shows the world you know going to

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hell with explosion you know some big

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explosions

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and it's funny says a lot of

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researchers are into ufos

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they also research the afterlife like

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like leslie keane

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i do i mean i've i've been obsessed with

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the afterlife research too especially

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physical mediumship

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but i mean it's just i like all of this

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stuff so it's not just afterlife

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danny's presentation i have to look at

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my notes

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it's been so many notes i don't even

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remember how danny's was i thought the

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the technology of eschatology

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the destiny of the soul after physical

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death

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or as young had said the end of an era

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or a civilization in transformation what

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the hell that means i don't even know i

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can't even make sense out of some of my

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own notes

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um i like this with terence mckenna said

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kripal read this people are so alienate

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people are so alienated by their own

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soul

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think it comes from another star system

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it disguises itself as an et invasion as

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to not alarm us i love that i hope

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that's true it's really us

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some form of us on another level

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coming to help us ufos are much more

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than machines in the sky but that's part

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of it it looks more more like a mystical

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movie in the sky it features eruptions

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into this world to encour encourage us

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to let go of our beliefs and convictions

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because they're literally killing us and

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our planet

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and then somebody asked about charles

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fort i don't know if he brought it up

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but he said yeah fort had a dark

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narrative he thought we are a farm and

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they treat us as sheep or cattle

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uh kripal has a history in religion he's

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a historian of religion he's familiar

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with the negative side

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the phenomenon is sacred to some

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terrifying to others

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the phenomenon is probably neither a

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threat nor entirely good

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and i think as uh semivan said it just

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doesn't really care about us we're kind

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of ins inconsequential they may just

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he thinks

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yeah as far as trusting the phenomena i

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don't phenomenon i don't blame you i

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mean

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i have not had those experiences but

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just hearing people talk i don't know i

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don't know how that yeah how can you

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trust it i mean that gets brought up

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later

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hopefully i'll be able to get to it i

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still have over an hour

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kripal says the big thing he thinks or

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we need money

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resources for professionals to get

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involved he goes if that doesn't happen

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you know scientists the old

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theologians philosophers they all need

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funding that will excite them into

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studying this and then we can train

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young people to study it until that

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that's all i highlighted but somebody

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asked abductions how does that have to

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do with free will and

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cripel said that yeah there's not he's

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not sure there's a lot of free will

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there that's why it's terrifying i mean

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look at the way you know it looks like

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and then he says he mentions ray

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hernandez in the free study says the

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experience could can evolve you know

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with a lot of experiences it changed

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changes it's it changes them in a really

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positive way but kripal says it can also

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negatively affect that person in a big

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way

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right on to james garrison

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i don't have the summaries of who these

391
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people are sorry i just wanted to get

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live and i've been trying to make these

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notes readable all day

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and garrison says you the ufo phenomenon

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is

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deeply buried in the collective memory

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of our species

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the two common memories in our

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collective psyche of humanity the

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collective psyche of humanity that are

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shared globally

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the great flood that story is not just

403
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in the bible you know 150 years ago we

404
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learned it was all over the world when

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he discovered the sumerian tablets uh

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written in cuneiform and then it's in

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350

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different cultures that flood story

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and he said christians and jewish people

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were a bit shocked to learn the bible

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you know reworked an older story by

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thousands of years

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and it's the whole you know noah story

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not a lot of people survived uh

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it's about 12 000 years ago if you read

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up on a commentary strike

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uh during the younger driest period uh

418
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you'll hear it's like 11 800 years ago

419
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graham hancock's done a lot of work on

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and the other collective memory is

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related to and i'll tell quickly who

422
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have never heard the sumerian story

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about

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them intervening intervening

425
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kripal refers back to the sumerian

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tablets and the story about a spacecraft

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and other beings coming to mesopotamia

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he says they were amphibious and

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reptilian

430
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i only read sitchin i don't remember him

431
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saying they were reptilian i i know i

432
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remember seeing some images that were

433
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reptilian

434
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and i don't remember the amphibious part

435
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either but

436
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he says it's global

437
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uh he says scholars think they came from

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the pleiades i've never heard that you

439
00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:55,840
know the 12th planet i've always heard

440
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uh he mentions the doggone tribe which

441
00:19:03,350 --> 00:18:59,440
is related to

442
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one of the stars and sirius

443
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i think sirius is a binary star

444
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one thing i remember and i don't know if

445
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stitching was right i mean i know people

446
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said he locked made a lot of mistakes in

447
00:19:16,630 --> 00:19:14,160
his interpretations and i know the whole

448
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story of you know they came down here on

449
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their planet the 12th planet their

450
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atmosphere was destroyed so they needed

451
00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:22,160
gold to help

452
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fix their atmosphere and repair it so

453
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they came here

454
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started mining the gold got tired of

455
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doing it saw that there was a being here

456
00:19:33,909 --> 00:19:31,840
homo erectus maybe decided to

457
00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:33,919
genetically engineer those beings to

458
00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:37,440
create us a smarter a smarter being but

459
00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:39,520
not too smart not as smart as them and

460
00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:41,200
that's how they created us basically as

461
00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:43,360
slaves that's that's the story i have no

462
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:44,720
idea if it's true back then when i read

463
00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:47,120
it i was blown away but now

464
00:19:51,029 --> 00:19:49,520
not so sure um

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00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:51,039
i think gary nolan has said there's no

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evidence that there's been anything like

467
00:19:58,549 --> 00:19:54,880
that showing up you know that showed up

468
00:20:00,630 --> 00:19:58,559
in our dna that points towards that but

469
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um

470
00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:02,960
so that's the other memory

471
00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:04,720
that the sumerians were visited and one

472
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thing interesting is carl sagan talked

473
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about the sumerians and talking about

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other beings be there and beings be

475
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there being there and sagan said it's

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notable because

477
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they seem to be describing real persons

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not mythological people and

479
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that's notable i think he said they

480
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were describing uh real person

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personages

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he thinks et's came here and landed in

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so that's james garrison he thinks the

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et's came here landed in sumer he thinks

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there may they maybe

486
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there may be also interdimensional

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visitors just because they're further

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advanced just because they're farther in

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advance than us doesn't mean they're

490
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better or benign because people make

491
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that argument they're like

492
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well if they've gotten the technology

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achieved that level of technology to

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come to the planet earth then they must

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be advanced they must have overcome war

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and i'm like that's a major assumption

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uh he says the same thing

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he talks about international climate

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change which is a common theme today

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and now we're entering in

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unprecedented

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territory he called it code red for

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humanity we've passed 400 parts per

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million co2 in the atmosphere we're pop

505
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past the point the tipping point

506
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we're not at the precipice we're going

507
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over the precipice uh he thinks there's

508
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an extinction level event by 2020 2026

509
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:35,280
that's kind of soon

510
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maybe the beginning of it um he thinks

511
00:21:41,350 --> 00:21:39,679
mammals are screwed and he didn't use

512
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that word that's me uh because we're

513
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going to be faced with extinction

514
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ecology is being wiped out and we're out

515
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of time we have months not years to get

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it to get it together

517
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and then

518
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whitley

519
00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:02,630
asked via he was in the crowd and asked

520
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the question does our dna show we're in

521
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a constant

522
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constant state of trauma and

523
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jim says absolutely look at the gnostics

524
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they talk about it i was very impressed

525
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:16,159
that he brought up the gnostics he said

526
00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:17,760
you know they talk about a malevolent

527
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force creating us the demiurge

528
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which is a really amazing myth flash

529
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:24,720
story and some people believe is real

530
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:26,240
you know the archons and they control

531
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this planet and

532
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:31,200
he goes you know the demiurge you know

533
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,600
the god we worship the old testament is

534
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:35,360
a psychopath and if you read some of the

535
00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:36,799
stuff

536
00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:38,320
in the old testament and you listen to

537
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,080
graham hancock there's something great

538
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:42,000
on youtube that talks about that

539
00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:43,679
if that was a real

540
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:44,880
being

541
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:50,159
psychopath is a good description

542
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:52,320
yahweh you know if that was a real being

543
00:22:56,149 --> 00:22:54,000
he goes the god of these religions is

544
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:56,159
not a god of love love

545
00:23:00,070 --> 00:22:58,080
uh we need to be liberated from this

546
00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:00,080
negative control and there are other

547
00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:02,320
people who think that

548
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:04,000
you know farsight thinks we're on a

549
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:06,159
prison planet not stealing anything from

550
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:08,000
alex jones get that out of your head but

551
00:23:12,310 --> 00:23:10,400
farsight thinks it's a prison planet and

552
00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:12,320
i've communicated with other people who

553
00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:14,640
think along those lines

554
00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:17,360
no evidence for that but you know as

555
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:19,200
later on you'll see use your intuition

556
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:20,640
that doesn't

557
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:22,559
scream crazy to me but i have no idea

558
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:28,470
so we need a new story behind beyond the

559
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:30,400
main religions

560
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:32,559
they found sway sway during the age of

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patriot patria

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patriarchy the subordinate nature

563
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:40,559
they subordinate

564
00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:43,120
nature women animals and actually

565
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:45,919
accentuate the transcendent functions

566
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:47,520
and it's largely responsible for the

567
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:49,279
situation we're in now

568
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:50,559
consciousness

569
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:53,360
mostly abrahamic religions

570
00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:55,279
consciousness that produced the problem

571
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:57,039
you know we're based on our economy

572
00:24:01,590 --> 00:23:59,600
greed destroys the world is also

573
00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:01,600
responsible for the situation we're in

574
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:02,400
now

575
00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:04,400
we need to take care of gaia and

576
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:05,440
remember just because i'm reading

577
00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:06,880
something doesn't mean i agree with it

578
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:08,799
some of it i do but some of it i don't

579
00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:10,799
it's quicker if i just go over i'll add

580
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:14,240
my thoughts in every now and then

581
00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:15,760
the notion that we're chosen we're

582
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:18,480
special we're separate from god you know

583
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:20,480
that separateness is the ultimate

584
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:21,760
delusion

585
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:24,480
so then we get to sheehan

586
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:26,159
and i skip a lot of stuff but i'm trying

587
00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:27,520
to get to the last

588
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:28,880
panel

589
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:32,480
i'm gonna skip a lot with him

590
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:34,799
and he says beyond the theological

591
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:36,799
experience and beyond the five senses we

592
00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:39,200
are biologically evolving a new sixth

593
00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:41,120
sense that where we can link into the

594
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:42,559
unified field

595
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:44,240
compares it to you know remote viewing

596
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:46,240
telepathy psychokinetic so we can move

597
00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:49,120
things with our mind entanglement

598
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:50,720
we're getting a lot of pushback from the

599
00:24:58,870 --> 00:24:56,710
and with the coming of ufos we are now

600
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:58,880
aware aware of the stories told by the

601
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:01,360
mystics that are told to communicate the

602
00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:03,440
essential truth and that that is you

603
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:05,279
know most people don't have time to sit

604
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:08,480
and you know contemplate this

605
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:10,159
so the essential truth to the great

606
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:11,440
masses

607
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,360
has to be overcome you know they were

608
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:15,679
told a specific story

609
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:17,120
and he gets to that in a second what

610
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:19,200
that story was and why because because

611
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:21,279
the the this extraordinary reality that

612
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:23,120
we have right now at the core of human

613
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:25,120
human reality is different than stories

614
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,720
they have been told

615
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:29,039
to educate 99

616
00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:31,279
of the masses back then 99 of the masses

617
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:32,720
were illiterate so they came up with

618
00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:34,480
stories they could easily understand he

619
00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:36,159
goes and those stories were meant to

620
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,400
tell a greater story about

621
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:40,320
a certain concept discerned through

622
00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:42,400
other subtle processes meaning

623
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:44,799
meditation he says but now people take

624
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:46,240
them literally he's talking about

625
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:47,760
stories in the bible and other sacred

626
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,840
texts so now people take them literally

627
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,840
and believe that god is a man up in the

628
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:53,600
sky but they were supposed to be

629
00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:55,760
metaphors and not taken literally and

630
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:04,149
and he says coming up with these changes

631
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:05,760
when people realize what's going on

632
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:07,760
whoever's visiting us we're gonna have

633
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:10,480
to face the discovery

634
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:12,320
of this dimension of reality that we're

635
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:14,240
not alone and that will displace us from

636
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:16,640
our place perceived by all that we are

637
00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:18,480
the top of the heap

638
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:20,960
just like when copernicus and others

639
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:22,240
show that we were not at the physical

640
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:24,159
center of the universe the church

641
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:26,559
replaced that idea with the pyramid

642
00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:27,919
where yeah we're not the center of the

643
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:29,279
universe but we're at the top of the

644
00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:31,919
pyramid well we're about to disprove

645
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,240
that one too the universe isn't just

646
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:36,320
here for humans to play out our drama

647
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:38,159
and so we can spread out and spread our

648
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,400
joyous seed throughout the universe

649
00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:42,640
so the destruction of that idea

650
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:44,640
and the idea of a supreme being being a

651
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:47,600
man who judges us about going about

652
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,760
is about to go out the window yeah the

653
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:51,440
destruction of that idea and the idea of

654
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:52,960
a supreme being

655
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:55,200
being a man who judges us is about to go

656
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:56,640
out the window it's gonna be massive

657
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:58,400
change and the church needs to get

658
00:27:01,990 --> 00:26:59,919
people ready for that

659
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,000
we may not even be number two you know

660
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:04,400
not the top dog he goes we may not even

661
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,919
be number two or three or even a hundred

662
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:09,679
he goes we may be even low much lower

663
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:11,440
than that and we have to be able to come

664
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:12,880
to grips with this

665
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:16,000
uh human beings you were number 379 in

666
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:17,360
the smart

667
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:20,880
galaxy now if you want to talk to

668
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:22,240
universe i don't think you want to hear

669
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:23,440
that number

670
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:26,559
and he says the main challenge that we

671
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:32,789
is that we may all fall on our knees and

672
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:36,080
worship these visitors as gods the major

673
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:38,080
danger is

674
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:41,120
blowing away our entire theology how do

675
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:42,960
we accelerate the evolution of our of

676
00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:44,399
our spiritual insight to prepare

677
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:46,799
ourselves for a spiritual rear ending he

678
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:48,799
calls it a spiritual rear ending he

679
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:51,520
tells a story of in 1970 in the 70s

680
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:53,039
where he was driving

681
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:54,240
and all of a sudden he looked in his

682
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:55,440
rear view mirror and there was a car

683
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,360
going like 70 miles an hour about to

684
00:28:02,070 --> 00:27:59,760
slam into him so he sped up spin the

685
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:02,080
tires got going to 50 miles an hour and

686
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:04,240
the car still hit him

687
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:06,080
but it didn't do as much damage as if he

688
00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:08,559
was just sitting there and he's like

689
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:10,159
so that's what we face we need to

690
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:12,480
accelerate get up to speed and prepare

691
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:14,159
for the rear ending we're about to

692
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:15,440
experience i thought it was a great

693
00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:16,480
analogy

694
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:18,399
and that could be a jolt to our human

695
00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,480
consciousness if people aren't prepared

696
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:22,880
for it we're prepared for it

697
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:24,640
but a lot of people aren't

698
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:26,159
it talks about teaching meditation

699
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:28,080
that's a big part of it of course i

700
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:30,399
don't practice what i preach

701
00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:33,760
i was told to meditate so many times

702
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:35,919
i only do it when i work a meditation

703
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,080
conference but i will do it i will do it

704
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,919
one day

705
00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:41,520
in the afterlife

706
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:43,760
from a theological point of view

707
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:45,360
we need to oh this is going to go over

708
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:47,360
well with conservative people or anybody

709
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:53,110
from a theological viewpoint remember

710
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:54,240
give him a little break because it's

711
00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:55,679
theological but he goes we need to

712
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:58,000
prohibit killing of other people get rid

713
00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:59,840
of all guns

714
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:01,600
stop war completely

715
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:04,720
complete nuclear weapons disarmament

716
00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:05,600
so

717
00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:08,080
yeah from a theological

718
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:10,799
if we lived in a perfect world yeah but

719
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:12,880
we don't so that's

720
00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:14,240
i don't even know why we he would talk

721
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:15,679
about that but he goes

722
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:17,120
we need to deal with because we're not

723
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:18,960
anywhere close to that we need to deal

724
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:21,200
with global climate change they whoever

725
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:22,720
they are have continually told

726
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:25,840
experiencers stop destroying your planet

727
00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:27,279
there's a tiny fraction of people in

728
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:28,640
this world who are destroying their

729
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:31,360
planet you know the one percent

730
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:33,120
we need to mobilize and take control of

731
00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:35,360
our democratic institutions

732
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:36,799
here's another political thing i

733
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,919
shouldn't even mention it but i'll tell

734
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:39,039
you because he said it he goes we need

735
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:40,559
to and i know why he's saying it because

736
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:42,320
he's involved in politics in california

737
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:43,760
but he's like we need to

738
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,480
defeat the recall of governor newsom

739
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:48,320
which i don't i don't think really

740
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,240
belongs in that lecture especially since

741
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:52,399
most people are not from california

742
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,919
and i made a note i'm sure this will go

743
00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:55,840
over well

744
00:30:02,710 --> 00:29:58,640
in just a reality the ufo people aren't

745
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:06,230
now on to marshall summers

746
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:08,559
he's the most controversial guy

747
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:10,399
what time is it

748
00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:11,760
damn it all right

749
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:20,789
jim semi man is agnostic

750
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:26,389
all right

751
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:27,520
we don't know

752
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:29,120
what or who we're dealing with this is

753
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:31,200
marshall summers don't focus on trying

754
00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:32,799
to get the government to disclose we

755
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:34,840
need to use and this is a little

756
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,559
woo-ish

757
00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:38,159
for some people

758
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:40,000
not really that bad not even close to

759
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:41,840
what

760
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:44,080
i shared with mark sims yesterday how

761
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:50,630
hopefully you're doing well in portugal

762
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:52,960
yeah so two things sheen brought up i

763
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:54,320
didn't think he would bring up but i

764
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:56,399
mean this is a you know i'm gonna let it

765
00:31:01,830 --> 00:30:58,960
slide this whole thing

766
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:01,840
he talks non-stop so

767
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:03,519
i'm not gonna really criticize danny for

768
00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:05,200
that he's really involved in that end of

769
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:07,519
it in the politics and and trying to

770
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:10,000
deal with policy anyway so marshall

771
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:11,840
summers

772
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:13,760
use intuition meditation contemplation

773
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:15,760
to help get the answers of what we're

774
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:17,919
dealing with with the phenomenon you

775
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:19,200
know and then he mentions look at what

776
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:20,559
happened to native cultures when they

777
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:22,000
were visited by

778
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:23,919
you know when we came to visit the

779
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:25,360
native cultures in this country they

780
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:27,279
were wiped out so

781
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:29,760
he's making the comparison that might be

782
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:31,440
what be and that's gonna that causes

783
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:33,120
problems later on i mean it didn't get

784
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:34,720
heated but they're disagreeing on all

785
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:35,840
that

786
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:39,120
gonna happen to us when we you know when

787
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:45,029
i have no idea you know

788
00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:46,320
he goes we have not given them

789
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:48,080
permission

790
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:49,679
you know especially with abductions and

791
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,320
we have no knowledge of what's going on

792
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:54,960
we need to access information within go

793
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:56,000
within

794
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:58,320
instead we focused on govern focus on

795
00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:00,799
government disclosure and secrecy

796
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,000
who is here

797
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:04,240
why are they here

798
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:05,519
what do they want and what are they

799
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:06,960
doing

800
00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:10,240
it doesn't matter what we want

801
00:32:15,029 --> 00:32:11,600
to believe

802
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:15,039
need knowledge in other words something

803
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,720
that is within us

804
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,240
yeah that's great within us but we also

805
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,240
have i think we need physical knowledge

806
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,320
too however we can get it

807
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:24,080
he says god has given us the ability to

808
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:28,470
and he says

809
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:30,799
government and aliens are keeping things

810
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:32,159
secret from us

811
00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:33,679
you know you hear eric davis say the

812
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:35,120
same thing he's like if they don't tell

813
00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:36,399
us anything they don't tell us their

814
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:37,679
intentions they don't know tell us what

815
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:38,880
they're doing here we don't know where

816
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:40,320
they're from

817
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:42,240
he thinks everything related to ufos is

818
00:32:45,029 --> 00:32:44,159
bad i forget the exact quote

819
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:45,039
uh

820
00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:46,799
human beings are a lot of most humans

821
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:48,399
are in denial that it's even happening

822
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:49,919
you know it's not or it's not important

823
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:52,000
to them when they learn about it they

824
00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:54,559
think it's just people with crazy ideas

825
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:56,559
others accuse others acknowledge that

826
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:58,080
something's happening but it's not

827
00:33:02,070 --> 00:32:59,760
important to them though there are a lot

828
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:02,080
of theories folks using their theories

829
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:03,679
and information to help their there are

830
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:05,200
folks that are using their theories and

831
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:06,799
information to help their status and

832
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:08,080
careers

833
00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:09,840
and we can name names but i will not

834
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:11,279
there's not a lot of people even make a

835
00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:13,279
career out of this uh

836
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:15,039
and when that happens things get muddied

837
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:17,519
and confused

838
00:33:21,269 --> 00:33:18,880
right now we can only respond to the

839
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:21,279
first question what's happening we'll

840
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:22,880
never be able to answer all answer all

841
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,880
the questions we can speculate all day

842
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:25,919
long

843
00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:26,720
but

844
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:29,039
can we see it for what it really is

845
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:30,240
you need to move beyond your

846
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:33,120
preconceived beliefs anthropomorphic

847
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:36,640
approach will not solve this

848
00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,710
how did visitation and intervention from

849
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:46,559
the white man affect the native people

850
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:48,240
in the past and how will it affect us

851
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:51,360
today hopefully not the same

852
00:33:55,509 --> 00:33:52,880
and he says we have to have a humble

853
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:55,519
opening for this greater intelligence

854
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,200
using innate knowledge

855
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:59,279
meditation contemplation to provide

856
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:01,440
clarity and direction entanglement with

857
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:03,760
the divine fundamental resonance you

858
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:06,000
occasionally get moments of clarity my

859
00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:07,440
advice

860
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:10,720
this is summers ask a question meditate

861
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:12,800
and see what pops into your mind

862
00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:14,079
i've done that before i've done that

863
00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:15,919
with sleep go to sleep with a question

864
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:17,119
and then sometimes you'll dream the

865
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:19,280
answer it happened at least once to me

866
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:20,560
in college

867
00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:22,560
i couldn't figure out this computer

868
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:23,679
program

869
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,159
science major and it was

870
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:30,720
a really difficult class i think it was

871
00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:32,560
um

872
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:34,800
pascal language anyway i couldn't figure

873
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:37,119
it out went went to bed dreamed how to

874
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:38,960
figure it out knew it right away got up

875
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:41,119
went to school did it and i was the only

876
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:42,560
other person in the class who got it the

877
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:44,000
other guy accused me of stealing his

878
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:46,320
program out of the garbage

879
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:48,079
um but at the time i didn't think

880
00:34:51,349 --> 00:34:50,159
anything of it oh i dreamt it big deal

881
00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:51,359
so i don't know what what i was

882
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:56,470
what do we really know about the alien

883
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,440
presence

884
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:59,040
don't jump to

885
00:35:03,030 --> 00:35:01,200
well they're here to help us he goes no

886
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:03,040
sit there and contemplate it

887
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:04,720
intellect will fail when trying to

888
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:06,720
understand the alien presence

889
00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:09,599
has to come from within

890
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:11,839
uh we build our own ethics of content we

891
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,599
need to build our own ethics of contact

892
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:15,520
and rules engagement otherwise anybody

893
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:17,119
can come here and do what they want to

894
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:18,720
us if we you know if we ever get into

895
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:21,680
any negotiations

896
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:23,359
which we'll talk about in the panel

897
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:25,280
because that's the new you know the new

898
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:27,280
paradigm paradigm institute and danny

899
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:28,880
sheen and mark sims they're like we need

900
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:31,280
to you'll see we need to

901
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:32,960
form a group and we need to try to reach

902
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:35,280
out to these visitors

903
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:37,200
uh i've always had a slight problem with

904
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:38,880
that but

905
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:42,079
i pre i applaud their efforts

906
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:44,160
and summers ends by saying we're like

907
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,760
the natives we need to assess the

908
00:35:51,430 --> 00:35:47,599
foreign visitors we don't know anything

909
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:51,440
about and the foreign visitors are

910
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,599
the others

911
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:55,680
in this panel i took so many notes let's

912
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:59,440
see how long it is um

913
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:01,200
and how much time do we have before 6

914
00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:02,880
30. if you have any questions guys i

915
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:04,640
could do like five minutes of questions

916
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,550
as far as books on gnosticism i have not

917
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:14,640
read any read any but

918
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:16,560
i think john lamb lash

919
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:18,000
in

920
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:22,160
problems too with some of the stuff he

921
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,760
said and

922
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:25,359
you find a great researcher and they're

923
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,520
like oh he made these anti-semitic

924
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:29,280
comments and

925
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:31,680
he likes nazis i'm like oh

926
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:34,800
i can't mention that guy so but he

927
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:36,160
i'm trying to think of other gnostic

928
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:38,000
people there are other gnostic books

929
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:39,359
i've

930
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:43,040
lot of on stuff online watched a lot of

931
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:46,160
lectures uh graham ant is a great

932
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:47,440
great

933
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:54,240
you can find his lectures on on youtube

934
00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:56,480
if there's no questions i will go on to

935
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:03,910
yeah i still don't know i don't know

936
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:05,359
what we're dealing with i've heard i've

937
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:07,119
heard various things behind the scenes

938
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:13,589
but

939
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:15,200
you're welcome

940
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:17,920
absolutely nice

941
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:19,040
you know i've heard things behind the

942
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:20,800
scenes but

943
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:22,800
i don't know you know

944
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:24,480
i have opinions and but those change

945
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:25,680
from time to time because you hear

946
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:26,880
something you're like oh i think i have

947
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:29,119
a grasp on this and then somebody tells

948
00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:31,280
you something you're like ugh

949
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:34,240
what over over all value have you gotten

950
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:40,230
what the hell did i talk about i'm just

951
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:42,000
enjoying the conversation it makes me

952
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:44,000
think of other possibilities that's the

953
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:45,359
one thing

954
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:47,119
you know i wasn't a big fan of reaching

955
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:48,800
out and trying to communicate with these

956
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:51,440
beings um considering we don't know what

957
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:54,640
we're dealing with especially with

958
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,400
you're welcome mike especially with the

959
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:58,320
um ce5 but then i was starting you know

960
00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:59,760
i listened to all these lectures not

961
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:01,520
just just today so it gives you another

962
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:03,200
viewpoint and it makes you it forces you

963
00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:05,520
to see the other side of things

964
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:07,359
and the the panel was the best one of

965
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:09,200
the best panels i've ever seen not just

966
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:11,119
today and yesterday i mean i've been to

967
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:13,760
a lot of ufo conferences

968
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:15,839
uh and me taking notes forces me to

969
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:18,160
really focus which normally you know

970
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:19,920
you're at a conference inside all day

971
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,680
and you get tired and you start getting

972
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:23,280
dozing off but

973
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,800
with this i cannot do that because i

974
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:26,320
have to come here and talk so and that's

975
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:31,190
yeah i don't know

976
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:33,040
there's no good photo or video of the

977
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:34,560
paranormal like there are things that

978
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:37,680
you can't take pictures of i mean

979
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:39,200
i have i have no idea you know

980
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,960
poltergeist uh

981
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:42,720
telepathy i mean there's no pictures

982
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:44,079
although there are there's pictures of

983
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:45,760
poltergeist activity it's a freeze frame

984
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:48,160
of this phone flying across the picture

985
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:49,040
um

986
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:51,119
look up barry taff and look up the uh

987
00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:53,680
the entity case that got turned into a

988
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:55,359
movie all right we'll start with the

989
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,150
all right so marshall summers he says

990
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:09,510
let me go back i'm missing beginning

991
00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:11,680
so danny asks and that was it was great

992
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:13,040
that danny asked this because he knew he

993
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,880
was going to get questions dave did john

994
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:16,400
in the house i worked with dave back in

995
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:19,200
1988 in fort myers florida my first tv

996
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:20,720
job

997
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:22,800
and i walked in and he pretended like he

998
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:24,640
knew me here he is

999
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:26,560
i was like do i know you

1000
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:29,119
that was i think 89 or 90 oh 88 december

1001
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:32,079
of 88 a long time ago

1002
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:33,839
so we start out

1003
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:35,760
she and goes is it a good idea for

1004
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:37,280
citizens to come together and then to

1005
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:39,040
try to reach out to whoever's visiting

1006
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:40,880
us and jim garrison says it's good to

1007
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:42,880
come together yeah and the galileo

1008
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:44,640
project with avi love that's really good

1009
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:46,720
he goes no no government money

1010
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:48,000
uh and then

1011
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:50,320
jeffrey kreipel says if the grant

1012
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:52,000
grantswell is big enough leaders will

1013
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:54,240
follow so yeah it's great you might make

1014
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:56,320
some rookie mistakes but you know begins

1015
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:57,599
with the people and then summers

1016
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:59,119
marshall summers says it's only safe

1017
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:01,119
with a group of people watching and

1018
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:03,119
listening not with individual

1019
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,880
individuals we don't know what we're

1020
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:06,160
dealing with

1021
00:40:10,150 --> 00:40:08,400
these beings may be of a group mind in

1022
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:10,160
other words they may be like a hive mind

1023
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:11,200
and they can

1024
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:12,720
put those minds together and have an

1025
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:14,319
influence on us and we know that's in

1026
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:15,599
the literature

1027
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:17,280
one person can see something somebody

1028
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:19,599
cannot or screen memory

1029
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:22,640
for experiencers abductees

1030
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:24,880
and jeff kreipel says interspecies

1031
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:27,359
contact or communication um marshall's

1032
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:28,880
advice is good

1033
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:30,480
you know historians we should have

1034
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:32,319
historians and anthropologists on that

1035
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,599
team that contact team

1036
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,440
when one culture encounters another in

1037
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:39,440
our history it's almost never good the

1038
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,599
history of colonialism is bad you know

1039
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:42,960
that's what the war of the worlds was

1040
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:45,119
about and then summer says we need

1041
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:47,520
someone who's very psychic

1042
00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:49,599
visitors operate on another level on

1043
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,839
that level too

1044
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:53,520
we need objective observers and not

1045
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:54,880
enthusiasts

1046
00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:56,800
dealing with an intelligence with a very

1047
00:41:02,870 --> 00:40:58,160
we're dealing with an intelligence with

1048
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:02,880
the very focused agenda agenda humanity

1049
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,880
humanity does not i don't know if we do

1050
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:06,079
not i don't think we have a focused

1051
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:07,680
agenda is what he said we're in constant

1052
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:09,920
disagreement you know so we can't match

1053
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,319
their focus

1054
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:14,160
unless we have a powerful assemble of

1055
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:15,839
people who can view it objectively and

1056
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:17,599
do an analysis

1057
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:19,920
we can't match their mental abilities

1058
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:21,839
meaning the others

1059
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:24,000
and then mark sims says you mentioned

1060
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:26,880
native wisdom and summers goes yeah in

1061
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:28,079
light of what happened to them the

1062
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:30,560
natives and you know we basically wiped

1063
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:32,560
them out he goes it's not good

1064
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:35,200
or what the spaniards did to the aztecs

1065
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:37,839
not good because their theology did not

1066
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:39,760
pray prepare them for the arrival of

1067
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:41,200
visitors from another world they thought

1068
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:43,680
the ocean represented

1069
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:44,880
the

1070
00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:58,240
g says

1071
00:42:02,470 --> 00:42:00,000
there's not much we can do on our side

1072
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:02,480
any contact with e.t

1073
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:05,119
they'll be so far superior to us in

1074
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:07,680
every conceivable way that's why they

1075
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,079
considered the you know that's why they

1076
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:12,000
were considered the gods

1077
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,520
like the aztecs when they encountered

1078
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:15,359
the spaniards the chosen group of

1079
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:17,359
scientists will be precisely the people

1080
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:19,520
they cannot meet they won't they do not

1081
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,560
meet with

1082
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,560
he goes he thinks these visitors will

1083
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:24,960
meet with the weak and insignificant and

1084
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,880
then danny jumps in he says we need to

1085
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:28,560
have some important sociological

1086
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:31,040
conversations with trained diplomats

1087
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:32,960
and learn how to negotiate with the

1088
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:35,200
others and then we can use that when we

1089
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:37,520
try to negotiate with them uh and he's

1090
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:38,960
like just like when you had astronauts

1091
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:42,880
and cosmonauts come together at esselon

1092
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:44,640
up in big sur

1093
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:46,720
and then summers goes never assume

1094
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:48,400
technological this is my favorite thing

1095
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:49,440
because i've

1096
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:51,200
said this before and others are and

1097
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:53,200
we've talked about it earlier in this

1098
00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:54,319
live stream

1099
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:56,720
never assume technological advancement

1100
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,280
equals spiritual or morally advanced how

1101
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,280
to advocate or negotiate with an

1102
00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:04,319
intervening force citizens can't i don't

1103
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:06,800
know anybody can who can do it putting

1104
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:08,800
people in a vulnerable position you're

1105
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:10,800
putting people in a vulnerable position

1106
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:12,079
now he's he's definitely the most

1107
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:14,800
negative of of this group obviously

1108
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:16,480
which i think is good to have balance

1109
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,359
because

1110
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:19,599
i think mark is the most positive and

1111
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:21,359
marshall summers is the most negative he

1112
00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:22,880
goes it's hard for even the most

1113
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:24,560
competent and professional people to do

1114
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:27,359
it you need comparable seers psychics

1115
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:29,680
and train people trained in negotiation

1116
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:32,160
and some citizens the folks who have a

1117
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,079
high hopes of who have high hopes and

1118
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:36,079
expectations into an arena that's way

1119
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:38,319
beyond their capabilities

1120
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,480
and then they meet with a group that may

1121
00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:42,880
be of a group mind of maybe 20

1122
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:44,960
extraterrestrials or whatever they are

1123
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:46,480
working against you he goes that's

1124
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:48,640
really tough they can influence you and

1125
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:51,040
put images in your mind and that's why

1126
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:52,480
you know i don't it's really hard to

1127
00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:58,390
experiences as far as

1128
00:44:01,510 --> 00:44:00,160
trying to trying to figure out what

1129
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:01,520
happened to them because of screen

1130
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:03,200
memories you know if that's the upper

1131
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:05,839
level and if these beings can influence

1132
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:12,069
what's the word um

1133
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:14,560
influence their perception so you don't

1134
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,760
even you don't even know if what you're

1135
00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:17,760
experiencing is real and carla turner

1136
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:19,599
got into that a lot

1137
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:21,040
i don't know i mean if you guys ever saw

1138
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:22,880
me talk about carla turner or put her

1139
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:26,560
lectures on on youtube on twitter

1140
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:28,400
and she was skeptical about what we were

1141
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:30,079
dealing with she did not think it was

1142
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,319
good

1143
00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:34,160
and

1144
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:35,119
he goes

1145
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:36,880
they can influence you and put images

1146
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:39,200
into your mind how do you battle that

1147
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:40,960
uh he goes i don't think they would talk

1148
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:42,400
to citizens they would talk to

1149
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:43,839
government he thinks they've spoken to

1150
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:45,040
government in the past and then you

1151
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:46,480
think of um

1152
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:48,400
holloman air force base which i was told

1153
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:49,920
was a real event where they suppose

1154
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:52,160
supposedly landed and met with our

1155
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:54,880
military leaders he goes

1156
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:56,640
but they do talk to people who they try

1157
00:45:01,589 --> 00:44:59,920
to recruit so be very careful

1158
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:01,599
time is it all right we got a half an

1159
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:10,950
thank you carl

1160
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:13,349
and i need to get glasses to read these

1161
00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:17,829
where did i leave off danny says we need

1162
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:22,470
no so danny says

1163
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:24,400
if these ets and he keeps i wish he

1164
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:25,920
would just say the others because we

1165
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:27,599
don't know their ets but he says if

1166
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:29,920
these et's reach out and said we're

1167
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:31,680
offering this technology to our human

1168
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:32,560
family

1169
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:33,280
would

1170
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:35,040
uh

1171
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:36,560
who would you want to participate with

1172
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:38,720
you like if they came to eslan and they

1173
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:40,160
offered to all these great things who

1174
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:41,680
would you want on your team i think that

1175
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:43,359
he was he was asking that and cripel

1176
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:44,079
says

1177
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:46,480
i don't see another culture here i don't

1178
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:48,480
see another country and he's he doesn't

1179
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:51,359
mean that literally he means

1180
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:52,640
he doesn't see

1181
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:55,119
as totally physical he sees that as a

1182
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:56,960
religious experience cripel and that's

1183
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:58,800
his specialty he goes i see people

1184
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,280
reporting immaterial beings taking on

1185
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:03,920
material form like gods have always

1186
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:05,760
communicated with us back

1187
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:07,520
thousands of years uh

1188
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:09,440
you know

1189
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:11,599
he's trained to not sign his name to any

1190
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:13,440
religious belief or any mythology

1191
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:15,760
because then he can't understand them so

1192
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:17,680
he tries to stay neutral

1193
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:19,119
he goes i'm as

1194
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:21,200
suspicious as people who say this is all

1195
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:23,680
positive as to the people who say it's

1196
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,280
all it's demons

1197
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:27,440
and he says demon talk is historically

1198
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,880
bad

1199
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:30,960
um he didn't get into specifics i think

1200
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:33,280
he's probably talking about

1201
00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:36,480
demonizing specific you know cultures

1202
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:38,560
groups of people the holocaust i think

1203
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:39,680
that's what he was referencing

1204
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:41,680
referencing he goes step back and

1205
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:43,359
questioning what question whether we're

1206
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:45,280
dealing with something where diplomacy

1207
00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:47,359
even makes sense we could be dealing

1208
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:49,839
with another part of ourselves

1209
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:52,480
i hope so that's the best outcome uh he

1210
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:54,960
goes they will not show up at echelon

1211
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:57,520
excellent and talk to us he goes nope

1212
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:59,359
historically advanced culture is meeting

1213
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:00,960
with less advanced cultures the outcome

1214
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:02,800
is bad you know they offered great

1215
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:05,359
things too in the past

1216
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,680
oh look at our beads come take our beads

1217
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:09,280
they said that a couple of times are

1218
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:10,960
trinkets and beads now we're going to

1219
00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:12,960
kill you

1220
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:15,920
um marshall summers says

1221
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,160
this is a super physical reality but

1222
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:20,000
with the possibility of other dimensions

1223
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:21,599
we'll never understand it if there are

1224
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:23,119
other dimensions we'll never understand

1225
00:47:26,549 --> 00:47:25,359
it fully we're facing and remember this

1226
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:26,559
is a negative guy we're facing

1227
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:28,400
intervention from forces we don't

1228
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:30,800
understand if you cross spiritual and

1229
00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:33,200
physical you can run into problems

1230
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:35,119
what's appropriate and spiritual might

1231
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:37,200
not be appropriate in the physical i

1232
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,880
don't talk about demons it's not

1233
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:40,800
relevant to what's happening

1234
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:41,440
and

1235
00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:45,280
danny jumps into jim says

1236
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:47,839
is it the projection of the unconscious

1237
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:50,480
subconscious like young and maybe valet

1238
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,400
or is it people from another planet

1239
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:54,720
using extraordinary technology you know

1240
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:55,920
the physical side versus the

1241
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:57,760
metaphorical slash

1242
00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:59,440
unconscious

1243
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:01,920
projection and jim says i think it's

1244
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:04,079
both physical and spiritual thank you

1245
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:06,880
kyle i appreciate it um

1246
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:08,559
i think it's both

1247
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:11,119
physical and spiritual or combined ufos

1248
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:13,359
sometimes physical and sometimes landing

1249
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:15,119
and then sometimes it's interest psychic

1250
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,440
but it's just as real the aztecs and the

1251
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:19,680
and cortez it was a physical event but

1252
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:21,760
the aztecs saw it as a spiritual event

1253
00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:23,119
because of their knowledge and history

1254
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,480
of the gods

1255
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:26,640
keep this in public discourse and out of

1256
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,040
government yeah here here because when

1257
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:31,359
they come and we prepare and when they

1258
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:33,599
come and we've prepared like the

1259
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,760
primitives have because it would it will

1260
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,440
determine the degree

1261
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:39,839
that will have any sophistication at all

1262
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,440
when dealing with them

1263
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:43,680
you know he thinks physical beings have

1264
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:48,390
you're welcome kyle

1265
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:50,240
this one's going better than yesterday i

1266
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:51,760
took better notes

1267
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:53,040
um

1268
00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:54,559
i took really good notes on this panel

1269
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:56,240
it was it was almost a transcript but

1270
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:57,920
not exactly it's too much to talk about

1271
00:49:04,470 --> 00:48:59,920
i can't type that fast i can't even type

1272
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:07,030
there are and this is cripel there are

1273
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,960
there are objective and subjective and

1274
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:10,960
you cannot separate because if you do

1275
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:13,440
you'll mix you'll mix the phenomenon

1276
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:14,960
skeptical

1277
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:20,079
system which i think is gaining more

1278
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,520
popularity they're not coming from

1279
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:23,440
somewhere else as far as physical

1280
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:27,829
people believe in things

1281
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:29,440
that they think are not human but it

1282
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:32,079
turns out to be human and he's like like

1283
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:33,920
poltergeist phenomenon

1284
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:35,440
phenomena

1285
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,599
always related to people in the family

1286
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:41,520
so young girls if there's something some

1287
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:43,280
relationship bad relationship in the

1288
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:45,280
family it is related to that a great

1289
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:46,720
book on that is

1290
00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:47,839
um

1291
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:50,079
aliens above

1292
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:51,839
ufos above aliens below it's one of

1293
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:53,920
those titles but it's

1294
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:56,000
what is his name

1295
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:58,960
drawing a blank on his name

1296
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:01,040
but he writes about poltergeist uh and

1297
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,160
he says some of the people who have

1298
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:04,400
poltergeist activity around him a lot of

1299
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:05,680
them are

1300
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:07,680
um epileptic

1301
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:09,839
um what the heck is his name damn it oh

1302
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:13,680
barry taft barry taft t-a-f-f great book

1303
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:16,000
really good book but not all of it is

1304
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:18,079
traced to humans you know

1305
00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:19,599
there are cases where you it's just you

1306
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:21,680
cannot it he's like you know you rule

1307
00:50:25,589 --> 00:50:23,680
out humans there are cases where

1308
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:25,599
he ruled out humans as best as he could

1309
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:26,880
he's like there's something else going

1310
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:29,040
on so it's like is that the trickster is

1311
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,359
that somehow mixing in with the human

1312
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:33,440
stuff it's really hard to figure out

1313
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:34,480
um

1314
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:35,920
you know he's like yeah with poltergeist

1315
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:37,920
we have superhuman powers to throw

1316
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:39,280
things around the room and blow things

1317
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:41,920
up it's really crazy um that the entity

1318
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:45,359
case i think he thought was like that

1319
00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:47,599
and then she invents mentions young and

1320
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:50,079
valet and kripal's like i'm not a

1321
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,240
jungian he goes because we don't know he

1322
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:54,000
and he goes i don't want to speak for

1323
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:55,440
valet but he goes i don't think he would

1324
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:57,280
land on either side

1325
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:58,800
um

1326
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,400
and cripel is

1327
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:02,480
suspicious

1328
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:04,000
that it's us

1329
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:06,400
causing all of this phenomena you know

1330
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:08,079
maybe some of the you know a lot of the

1331
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:09,680
poltergeist but as far as the ufo

1332
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:12,319
phenomenon jeffrey kreipel is suspicious

1333
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,910
and then marshall summers goes i'm not

1334
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,599
getting off on this i thought he was

1335
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:23,119
going to walk away he goes people are

1336
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:24,720
having real experiences and suffering

1337
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:28,079
from ps ptsd i'm a very spiritual person

1338
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:29,599
this is the only part of what i do he

1339
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:31,440
goes but i can understand the spiritual

1340
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,960
realm requires a different approach

1341
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,880
don't confuse the two realms spiritual

1342
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:36,720
and physical we st we get stuck on this

1343
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:38,559
because of the way we approach this

1344
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:40,640
government recognizes it as a physical

1345
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:42,160
event and it's so scary that they won't

1346
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:43,839
even this isn't i've heard this from

1347
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:45,920
other people and it's a theory

1348
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:47,760
the government recognizes it as a

1349
00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:49,599
physical event and it's so scary that

1350
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:51,119
they're not going to tell the public

1351
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,720
until they can counteract it in a

1352
00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:54,640
meaningful way which is basically what

1353
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:56,160
the long has said over the past few

1354
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:57,680
years even though he's backing off on

1355
00:52:02,390 --> 00:51:59,920
that a little a lot you know he still

1356
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:02,400
talks about some of this being scary but

1357
00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:04,800
back in the old when 2016 those older

1358
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:06,000
interviews he was kind of he was

1359
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:08,000
definitely in that direction um they're

1360
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:09,200
working behind the scenes with other

1361
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:10,400
countries trying to figure out how to

1362
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:11,760
combat this

1363
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:13,760
and uh summers goes we have a burglar

1364
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:15,440
and an interloper in our house and we

1365
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:17,359
need to deal with it first and then mark

1366
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:20,640
sims mr positive i kind of was wondering

1367
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:22,559
what mark was thinking here

1368
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:24,800
i think danny was enjoying it

1369
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:26,960
mark says should we reach out i think he

1370
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:29,119
was questioning the whole you know ce5

1371
00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:36,309
and mark sims goes

1372
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:37,359
yes

1373
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:39,200
but be careful

1374
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:41,200
and we should not do nothing he goes are

1375
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:42,800
they malevolent and i've never heard

1376
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:44,480
mark talk about this i wanted to know

1377
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,200
does he think they're all positive

1378
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:48,960
you know

1379
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:50,800
is the invasion of our airspace

1380
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:52,880
considered a threat he goes i don't see

1381
00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:55,200
them flying around as a threat

1382
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:57,200
i haven't seen anything that's a threat

1383
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:59,280
you know pilots see these on a daily

1384
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:01,440
basis for two years i don't see that as

1385
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:02,559
aggressive

1386
00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:11,839
think we would have heard that

1387
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:13,280
from the pilots or the government i

1388
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:14,559
don't agree with that i don't think if

1389
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:16,000
there was something aggressive i do not

1390
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:17,119
think they would tell us i mean the

1391
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:18,559
pilots would if they could talk but none

1392
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:19,920
of the pilots can talk because most of

1393
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:21,920
them are active duty he goes

1394
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:24,559
marxim says there may be a malevolent

1395
00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:26,640
element naive to think it's all

1396
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,559
malevolent i don't think i i don't think

1397
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:30,480
i've ever met any man well i shouldn't

1398
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:31,839
say that i just said eric davis thought

1399
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,920
there was nothing good about ufos but

1400
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:35,359
he goes it's naive to think it's all

1401
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,640
malevolent

1402
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:38,400
millions of species in the cosmos and

1403
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:40,240
many have visited here some are still

1404
00:53:44,309 --> 00:53:43,119
here this is mark sims are they in some

1405
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:44,319
coalition

1406
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:45,839
you know combined together as a

1407
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:48,319
malevolent force i don't think so but i

1408
00:53:52,309 --> 00:53:49,680
don't want to promote that they're all

1409
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:52,319
benevolent and here to sing kumbaya with

1410
00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:53,440
us

1411
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:55,040
but at least we need to reach out

1412
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:57,440
otherwise we're screwed and then danny

1413
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,599
says to cripel he goes

1414
00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:01,040
he mentions and danny has said this

1415
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:02,800
before and i i've tweeted it and i've

1416
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:04,640
talked about it and it's in my massive

1417
00:54:08,829 --> 00:54:06,640
jenny sheehan transcript danny has

1418
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:08,839
photos taken out the cockpit

1419
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:13,520
of craft 50 feet away from the the f-18

1420
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:15,520
i assume it's a f-18 you know or clear

1421
00:54:18,549 --> 00:54:17,200
picture of a tic-tac

1422
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:18,559
and he mentions the speeds and the

1423
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:21,200
underwater and the sonar

1424
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:23,599
and then again he says to krypol he goes

1425
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:24,720
where do you think it's coming from jeff

1426
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:26,559
the collective unconsciousness

1427
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:28,160
and i'm saying that wrong i have to i

1428
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:30,960
forget what young called it and then

1429
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:34,160
jeff says i'm not a jungian and sheehan

1430
00:54:38,789 --> 00:54:36,960
apologized for getting it wrong heels

1431
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:38,799
jeff kripal says please do not assume

1432
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:40,960
the cold war invasion mentality he goes

1433
00:54:45,670 --> 00:54:43,280
that might be true he goes might be true

1434
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:45,680
but probably not they've probably always

1435
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:47,760
been here and contacting us

1436
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:50,000
but the data has has dribbled out he

1437
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:53,040
goes first rule of research we need data

1438
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:54,799
he's starting to sound like weinstein

1439
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:56,559
weinstein

1440
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:59,200
and we have no data he goes so many

1441
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:01,520
secrets that any real any real research

1442
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,520
is impossible it's hopeless unless they

1443
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:05,520
release the data and danny goes i can

1444
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:07,280
help you you know i go with lou and i

1445
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:09,599
meet with the inspector general and i've

1446
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:11,119
never heard him say this so i'm not sure

1447
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:12,640
if he's interpreting but he goes they're

1448
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:14,400
pissed off because they've been read out

1449
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:16,880
of this program danny sheen saying the

1450
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,640
inspector general is pissed off i'm not

1451
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:20,640
sure if it's one guy or the whole group

1452
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:22,319
he's met with he goes they're pissed off

1453
00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:23,520
because they've been read out of this

1454
00:55:26,710 --> 00:55:24,799
program

1455
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,720
and i need other people to tell me what

1456
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:28,559
to ask the inspector general i guess

1457
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:31,040
when they meet again eric weinstein is

1458
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:32,720
pulling his hair out he's got a lot of

1459
00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:35,119
hair at the lack of data and top

1460
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:37,200
scientists aren't being talked to about

1461
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,349
hold on guys

1462
00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:55,510
i gotta open the door sorry

1463
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:01,030
stay there

1464
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:02,710
and the dog is going to start crazy

1465
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:05,359
barking soon

1466
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:08,960
oh man tired of sitting too much sitting

1467
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:10,720
what did i leave off

1468
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:11,839
maybe he's going to bark we're just

1469
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:22,150
um so eric weinstein is uh pulling his

1470
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,160
hair out at the lack of data

1471
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:28,470
and the top scientists aren't being

1472
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:30,400
talked to about this it's a bizarre

1473
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:46,950
uh cripel the first rules of being an

1474
00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:49,119
intellectual is admitting what you don't

1475
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:51,440
know i see all the experiences and

1476
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:53,760
contact and abductions and he throws in

1477
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:55,440
possessions which i do think there's

1478
00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:57,040
some sort of connection

1479
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:58,720
he goes i can tell you what it looks

1480
00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:59,440
like

1481
00:57:02,950 --> 00:57:01,359
with my history of studying it studying

1482
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:02,960
it but military and sightings i don't

1483
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:04,960
know it's not my wheelhouse you know i

1484
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:06,640
hope you're successful but there's very

1485
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:07,680
little

1486
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:10,880
can say

1487
00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:12,720
and then jim g says everything in my

1488
00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:14,559
world is superseded right now by code

1489
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:17,920
red and climate change and sheen says

1490
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:21,359
if et's bring us some tech to help us

1491
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:23,200
would you be open to accepting it and

1492
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:25,280
then jim g says absolutely but we need

1493
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:28,160
data imagine biden tells the pentagon to

1494
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,480
release all and lets intellectuals and

1495
00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:32,640
researchers look at it and analyze it

1496
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:34,319
right now citizen action has become

1497
00:57:37,589 --> 00:57:36,480
almost impos impossibility at any level

1498
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:37,599
because of the way the government

1499
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,640
operates

1500
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:40,880
i think the ufo phenomenon is one part

1501
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:42,720
of our social system

1502
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:49,670
it's just one part of our social you

1503
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:50,960
know the problems we're dealing with you

1504
00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:52,160
know trying to get information out it's

1505
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:54,160
just one part of the the social system

1506
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:56,000
that's closing down he says the country

1507
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:57,760
is so polarized

1508
00:58:01,190 --> 00:57:59,520
we can't even discuss covid without

1509
00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:01,200
getting getting into arguments political

1510
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:02,480
arguments and

1511
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:04,400
he says marksman's idea of getting a

1512
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:06,000
team and meeting with the visitors is

1513
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:07,200
fine but

1514
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:08,880
in this world in this climate it's going

1515
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:10,160
to be tough i don't see it happening

1516
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:11,680
anytime soon

1517
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:13,599
marshall summers says how do we address

1518
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:17,520
the latest push for ufos in the news

1519
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:18,319
uh

1520
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,400
climate change we're at a critical point

1521
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:22,480
we need to look at human testimony

1522
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,240
human testimony

1523
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:26,160
this is interesting this is like i said

1524
00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:27,839
this guy is is negative but it's

1525
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:30,559
interesting he goes right now

1526
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:32,400
instability and up we're going through

1527
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:34,799
instant instability and upheaval

1528
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:37,119
and it's a perfect environment for

1529
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:38,960
intervention by the others and he

1530
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:40,720
doesn't say that in a good way because

1531
00:58:44,150 --> 00:58:42,240
whoever has been here has been here for

1532
00:58:45,510 --> 00:58:44,160
a long time and laying the groundwork

1533
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:45,520
for themselves

1534
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:47,440
you're not going to have the data so if

1535
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:48,720
you're sitting on the sidelines and

1536
00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:50,160
waiting for data you're just not going

1537
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:51,680
to be part of this he's talking about

1538
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:54,319
cripel we have innate abilities to know

1539
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:56,319
things i think the problems we're having

1540
00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:58,480
fits their agenda well meaning the

1541
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:00,559
others they'll show up and offer to help

1542
00:59:06,789 --> 00:59:04,559
us we just need to trust them

1543
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:06,799
he says that sarcastically um because

1544
00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:08,480
we're very easy to persuade because

1545
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:10,799
we're so desperate assuming things keep

1546
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:11,920
getting worse

1547
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:13,440
she and should should we try to get

1548
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:15,680
whatever advantage we can to help with

1549
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:17,440
you know from them to help with global

1550
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,200
climate global climate change

1551
00:59:24,789 --> 00:59:23,760
and then summers goes i think the deep

1552
00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:24,799
state

1553
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:27,440
is back engineering e-tech et tech and

1554
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:28,720
yeah i do think

1555
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:30,480
there are people back engineering et

1556
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:32,160
tech i don't know if it's deep state i

1557
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:39,589
he says other forces can always bring

1558
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:41,200
better tech here so he says the others

1559
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:42,960
can always bring better tech than what

1560
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:44,640
they're showing they only brought what

1561
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:46,799
they need we'll never catch up to them

1562
00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:47,520
so

1563
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:49,119
the government will not come clean until

1564
00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:50,720
they can combat this

1565
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:52,960
my view that it's a threat might not be

1566
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:54,640
true but i'm putting all of my effort

1567
00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:56,640
into this cripel's like i don't believe

1568
01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:58,640
in your mythology i'm sorry it's i think

1569
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:00,400
it's just dangerous i don't i don't know

1570
01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:02,559
of any culture who thinks we're alone

1571
01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:04,160
there's nothing new here we have data

1572
01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:05,839
from history to look at and draw

1573
01:00:11,349 --> 01:00:08,000
reasonable and then

1574
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:11,359
uh summers butts in says

1575
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,359
previous cultures show us what's what we

1576
01:00:17,109 --> 01:00:15,119
should be worried about and then jeff

1577
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:17,119
kreipel says this isn't the same as the

1578
01:00:23,109 --> 01:00:20,079
spaniards and the aztecs my folk folks

1579
01:00:25,190 --> 01:00:23,119
at my university think this is all bunk

1580
01:00:27,589 --> 01:00:25,200
and then summers goes well these ufos

1581
01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:27,599
are the tall ships of our time cripel

1582
01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:29,760
says some folks can be standing next to

1583
01:00:33,589 --> 01:00:32,160
each other and only see a ufo the person

1584
01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:33,599
will not see it he goes it's not like

1585
01:00:38,230 --> 01:00:36,559
the spanish conquistadors and danny says

1586
01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:38,240
why is the talk the pentagon talking

1587
01:00:43,589 --> 01:00:40,559
about this now why now i'm surprised

1588
01:00:44,870 --> 01:00:43,599
danny said that well because to the

1589
01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:44,880
store has happened if you believe the

1590
01:00:48,309 --> 01:00:47,040
story and semi van asked you know told

1591
01:00:49,510 --> 01:00:48,319
them the government higher ups we're

1592
01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:49,520
going to talk about this and they said

1593
01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:50,480
okay

1594
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:52,640
that's why now unless there's some other

1595
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:53,920
big comp

1596
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:55,200
you know story that we don't know about

1597
01:00:59,430 --> 01:00:57,280
which is possible um

1598
01:01:01,109 --> 01:00:59,440
and jeff as far as why now goes

1599
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:01,119
i have no idea he goes the last report

1600
01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:03,760
the government report had minimal data

1601
01:01:07,190 --> 01:01:05,359
and danny says well we're working on

1602
01:01:09,829 --> 01:01:07,200
getting the 400 pages of class the

1603
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:09,839
classified annex that has up close

1604
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:11,440
photos photos

1605
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:12,880
we're treating it like the pentagon

1606
01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:14,240
papers

1607
01:01:20,309 --> 01:01:16,319
i think the chances of us seeing that

1608
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:20,319
400 page classified annex are

1609
01:01:30,549 --> 01:01:28,470
i have 23 percent on a battery um

1610
01:01:32,549 --> 01:01:30,559
kripal says history of contact is

1611
01:01:35,109 --> 01:01:32,559
mediated by the intel by the human

1612
01:01:36,710 --> 01:01:35,119
imagination and sensorium i have to look

1613
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:36,720
that word up big word by cripel

1614
01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:39,440
mythologies turn up on radar you don't

1615
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:41,680
turn up on radar this one does he goes

1616
01:01:44,710 --> 01:01:43,280
we have people levitating he's talking

1617
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:44,720
about historical paranormal stuff we

1618
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:47,520
have people levitating if you look up

1619
01:01:52,069 --> 01:01:50,640
dd hume h-u-m-e um other people have

1620
01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:52,079
supposedly levitated you know we have

1621
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,680
things flying around the room poultry

1622
01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:54,960
guys we have

1623
01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:57,280
miraculous healings we have contact

1624
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:59,280
contact with entities this goes way way

1625
01:02:02,549 --> 01:02:00,960
back there's nothing new here and

1626
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:02,559
danny's like i've seen a photo of a

1627
01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:05,440
craft uh ufo 50 feet away from the plane

1628
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:07,520
and those those are not imaginable and

1629
01:02:10,710 --> 01:02:09,119
and jeff jeffrey kripal says can you

1630
01:02:13,029 --> 01:02:10,720
show me the photos and danny's like i

1631
01:02:14,309 --> 01:02:13,039
will and we'll be getting more well if

1632
01:02:16,470 --> 01:02:14,319
you can show him the photos why can't he

1633
01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:16,480
show us the photos you know uh and

1634
01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:18,160
kripal says by imaginal i don't mean

1635
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:19,920
imaginary because when one of these

1636
01:02:23,589 --> 01:02:21,680
things interacts with a human being it

1637
01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:23,599
activates the human imagination in

1638
01:02:28,150 --> 01:02:26,640
culturally specific ways

1639
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:28,160
when i hear marshall i feel like you're

1640
01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:30,240
saying we're being set up

1641
01:02:34,710 --> 01:02:32,240
i'm not questioning the physical reality

1642
01:02:36,309 --> 01:02:34,720
of these things and jim g says jeff is

1643
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:36,319
right all knowledge comes through the

1644
01:02:40,870 --> 01:02:39,119
priory filters of cognition everybody

1645
01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:40,880
sees the same event with different but

1646
01:02:44,789 --> 01:02:42,559
interprets it differently quantum

1647
01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:44,799
mechanics is about the observer effect

1648
01:02:47,510 --> 01:02:46,400
observer effect

1649
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:47,520
you know

1650
01:02:51,029 --> 01:02:49,200
jim thinks it's subjective but he also

1651
01:02:52,230 --> 01:02:51,039
thinks objective events

1652
01:02:54,069 --> 01:02:52,240
still happen

1653
01:02:55,190 --> 01:02:54,079
in that sense he agrees with marshall it

1654
01:02:59,910 --> 01:02:55,200
appears

1655
01:03:02,390 --> 01:02:59,920
reconnaissance mission not a takeover

1656
01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:02,400
but they're observing poking at us you

1657
01:03:06,309 --> 01:03:04,000
know bezos and musk want to go to the

1658
01:03:07,990 --> 01:03:06,319
moon and mars to mine it he goes i think

1659
01:03:09,910 --> 01:03:08,000
these aliens may be doing that and i

1660
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:09,920
think they're curious about us

1661
01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:11,680
and then the whole engaging and breeding

1662
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:13,599
program which is

1663
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:17,520
the focus of carla turner and

1664
01:03:23,109 --> 01:03:20,400
jacobs and jim g says

1665
01:03:25,029 --> 01:03:23,119
jim sees g says i don't see an invasion

1666
01:03:26,309 --> 01:03:25,039
in an incontrovertible way

1667
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:26,319
could be you know that they're

1668
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:28,240
experimenting meaning he doesn't think

1669
01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:30,000
they're planning on an invasion by some

1670
01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:32,319
sort of breeding program with hybrids

1671
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:33,520
because it could be some sort of

1672
01:03:36,950 --> 01:03:35,440
experiments they're carrying out

1673
01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:36,960
you know to see how breeding works with

1674
01:03:43,349 --> 01:03:42,309
and then marshall says i've been with

1675
01:03:46,789 --> 01:03:43,359
abductee

1676
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:46,799
authentic experiences it's serious you

1677
01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:48,000
know and then he brings up cattle

1678
01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:49,440
mutilations which i wish he would not

1679
01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:50,960
have done he goes he knew the

1680
01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:52,400
hematologists who did the sampling of

1681
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:55,520
tissue of mutilations uh cattle and

1682
01:03:59,510 --> 01:03:57,520
horses and you know there's a there's a

1683
01:04:02,390 --> 01:03:59,520
dark aspects of the alien presence

1684
01:04:04,069 --> 01:04:02,400
horses and cows dr al schuler

1685
01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:04,079
and i don't think most of cattle

1686
01:04:07,750 --> 01:04:05,920
mutilations are non-human

1687
01:04:09,670 --> 01:04:07,760
i think some may be

1688
01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:09,680
some are inexplicable but the i think

1689
01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:11,599
the majority if you read christopher

1690
01:04:15,029 --> 01:04:13,440
o'brien's work or he watches interviews

1691
01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:15,039
on youtube i think you'll come to the

1692
01:04:18,710 --> 01:04:16,559
same conclusion

1693
01:04:20,470 --> 01:04:18,720
i don't see any bias from o'brien

1694
01:04:22,150 --> 01:04:20,480
abductees are telling the same story

1695
01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:22,160
just going on where the evidence points

1696
01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:23,119
me

1697
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:25,520
you know

1698
01:04:28,630 --> 01:04:27,119
he thinks in some way the taking of

1699
01:04:30,549 --> 01:04:28,640
cattle is playing into a hybrid

1700
01:04:32,230 --> 01:04:30,559
hybridization program thinks they're

1701
01:04:35,109 --> 01:04:32,240
here for resources and we're one of the

1702
01:04:36,710 --> 01:04:35,119
resources imagination does play a role

1703
01:04:38,549 --> 01:04:36,720
but he's been looking at this for 35

1704
01:04:41,270 --> 01:04:38,559
years and this is summers again

1705
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,280
35 years and interacting with people

1706
01:04:45,270 --> 01:04:43,200
i'm interested in how this is impacting

1707
01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:45,280
people um

1708
01:04:48,470 --> 01:04:46,559
he goes to me

1709
01:04:50,390 --> 01:04:48,480
if you're interested in in how this is

1710
01:04:51,990 --> 01:04:50,400
impacting people he goes for me just

1711
01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:52,000
sending people to make contact is

1712
01:04:56,230 --> 01:04:53,760
dangerous i'm trying to be objective and

1713
01:04:57,750 --> 01:04:56,240
this is this whole negative

1714
01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:57,760
thing that he's talking about summers he

1715
01:05:01,430 --> 01:04:59,599
goes i'm trying to be objective but this

1716
01:05:02,789 --> 01:05:01,440
whole negative view is not what i want i

1717
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:02,799
want to make he wanted to make that to

1718
01:05:05,589 --> 01:05:04,160
be clear it's like he's wishing for it

1719
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:05,599
to be negative

1720
01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:06,880
and then sims goes do you think there's

1721
01:05:09,910 --> 01:05:08,400
more than one race of vts here and

1722
01:05:14,069 --> 01:05:09,920
summers goes yes

1723
01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:14,079
and mark's like all working together um

1724
01:05:16,950 --> 01:05:15,359
he thinks summers thinks they're all

1725
01:05:19,430 --> 01:05:16,960
doing the same things but they're in

1726
01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:19,440
competition with each other

1727
01:05:23,910 --> 01:05:21,599
and sims goes any benevolent and then

1728
01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:23,920
summers goes yes the allies of humanity

1729
01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:25,280
somebody sent me something about the

1730
01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:28,319
allies of humanity

1731
01:05:32,230 --> 01:05:30,720
hey guy how's it going shea cereal oh my

1732
01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:32,240
god these are people

1733
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:35,520
you know shay i met in college in the

1734
01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:38,160
late 80s so these people go way back

1735
01:05:41,829 --> 01:05:40,559
great to see them in here

1736
01:05:43,510 --> 01:05:41,839
mark asked do you think there are any

1737
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:43,520
benevolent beings here

1738
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:44,319
uh

1739
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:47,520
summers goes yes the allies of humanity

1740
01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:49,680
but they have withdrawn because we can't

1741
01:05:53,349 --> 01:05:51,280
discern the difference between friend

1742
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:53,359
and foe

1743
01:06:02,549 --> 01:05:54,720
and

1744
01:06:04,549 --> 01:06:02,559
make contact with the benevolent beings

1745
01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:04,559
and summers goes they're not here they

1746
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:05,599
left

1747
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:07,839
mark says i have met individuals and i'm

1748
01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:09,920
one and have been given history of these

1749
01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:11,680
races and a background in what's

1750
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:12,960
happening on this earth i think

1751
01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:14,960
benevolent forces are available if we

1752
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:16,480
reach out

1753
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:18,720
and that's the problem with channeling

1754
01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:20,079
or this information it's so

1755
01:06:24,390 --> 01:06:22,240
contradictory even right here you know

1756
01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:24,400
it's so contradictory you cannot rely on

1757
01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:26,559
any of this information oh they're here

1758
01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:28,240
they're not here they left they're good

1759
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:29,599
they're negative

1760
01:06:35,589 --> 01:06:34,000
any any possibility and and

1761
01:06:37,029 --> 01:06:35,599
combinations of what's going on and you

1762
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:37,039
can find it if you read all these

1763
01:06:40,150 --> 01:06:38,240
different books

1764
01:06:41,829 --> 01:06:40,160
uh experience and i'm you know i'm sorry

1765
01:06:43,190 --> 01:06:41,839
it's just the case what it is so we

1766
01:06:46,150 --> 01:06:43,200
don't know what the hell is going on and

1767
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:46,160
i don't know what's going on um

1768
01:06:50,069 --> 01:06:48,400
summer says i respect mark's experience

1769
01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:50,079
you know but look into the allies of

1770
01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:52,000
humanity i think is i don't know if all

1771
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:53,359
of his books are available online for

1772
01:06:58,069 --> 01:06:55,920
free i know his first one is for free

1773
01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:58,079
um he goes

1774
01:07:01,270 --> 01:07:00,160
who is here why are they here what's

1775
01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:01,280
driving them

1776
01:07:04,710 --> 01:07:02,880
you know it's very far out i understand

1777
01:07:07,349 --> 01:07:04,720
that and it's not scientific but it's

1778
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:07,359
easy to read and danny says is it viable

1779
01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:08,960
to expand out to other people to

1780
01:07:12,630 --> 01:07:10,799
participate in an end goal of reaching

1781
01:07:13,910 --> 01:07:12,640
out to communicate with these allies of

1782
01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:13,920
yours that you're talking about they're

1783
01:07:18,069 --> 01:07:16,240
not allies of his but i guess they're

1784
01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:18,079
extraterrestrials who could have been

1785
01:07:21,990 --> 01:07:20,240
allies if they hadn't left

1786
01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:22,000
he goes can you be the ambassador and

1787
01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:24,319
mark says summers goes i don't know

1788
01:07:28,230 --> 01:07:26,319
i'm i'm still in touch with uh you know

1789
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:28,240
there's four sets of briefings over a

1790
01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:30,240
22-year period we need to try to

1791
01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:32,319
understand what's going on in our local

1792
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:33,280
world

1793
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:35,359
you know it's physical

1794
01:07:40,630 --> 01:07:37,760
me as an ambassador i mean i can query

1795
01:07:42,549 --> 01:07:40,640
the source whoever this leader of the

1796
01:07:43,829 --> 01:07:42,559
allies of humanity is you know but

1797
01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:43,839
they're far away right now they were

1798
01:07:47,990 --> 01:07:46,160
driven away from our solar system trying

1799
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:48,000
to comprehend the non-human universe

1800
01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:50,400
from a human perspective you know

1801
01:07:54,549 --> 01:07:52,400
communications with them comes in seven

1802
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:54,559
year intervals i don't know why he said

1803
01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:56,720
we need to use our native

1804
01:08:02,309 --> 01:07:59,520
inner psychic wisdom to get some sort of

1805
01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:02,319
idea of what we're dealing with

1806
01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:03,680
problem is everybody's going to see it

1807
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:06,799
from a different view so

1808
01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:08,240
too objective

1809
01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:09,920
danny says all of us are aware of the

1810
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:11,920
sixth sense of knowledge we're we're

1811
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:14,319
we're requesting additional counsel

1812
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:16,880
we may be offered beads on our island of

1813
01:08:20,789 --> 01:08:19,440
earth he goes

1814
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:20,799
talking about the spaniards making an

1815
01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:22,400
analogy he goes but we can all become

1816
01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:24,719
creators with our new reality we have

1817
01:08:29,669 --> 01:08:27,040
big problems on this planet uh climate

1818
01:08:31,749 --> 01:08:29,679
change and related issues so what can we

1819
01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:31,759
do to overcome our human failings and

1820
01:08:36,149 --> 01:08:34,159
avoid this catastrophe earth is on fire

1821
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:36,159
and our days are dwindling

1822
01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:38,560
at least it's a positive message no it's

1823
01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:40,480
reality you know i know michael if he

1824
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:42,080
sees this he's been thinking about that

1825
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:43,199
and

1826
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:44,640
i don't know where we're heading not

1827
01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:46,080
looking good right now i'm not sure how

1828
01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:48,319
close we are to getting you know beyond

1829
01:08:53,189 --> 01:08:50,480
repair we may have gone over that

1830
01:08:55,749 --> 01:08:53,199
precipice as

1831
01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:55,759
somebody said earlier um danny says

1832
01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:57,120
thank you all for the conversation we'll

1833
01:09:01,110 --> 01:08:58,319
convene again

1834
01:09:02,709 --> 01:09:01,120
now let's go suck our heads and cool off

1835
01:09:05,189 --> 01:09:02,719
and remember jeff it's only in your

1836
01:09:07,430 --> 01:09:05,199
imagination and tribal goals i never

1837
01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:07,440
said that and they all laugh

1838
01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:10,640
all right let me pull this one

1839
01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:25,829
power i have power and it's 6 19 i got

1840
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:39,669
all right questions i got 10 minutes

1841
01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:41,430
any questions

1842
01:09:49,910 --> 01:09:46,309
nothing about cookie where he's met his

1843
01:09:54,149 --> 01:09:51,349
all right then i have 10 minutes for the

1844
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:54,159
next lecture

1845
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:56,400
i appreciate the donations i appreciate

1846
01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:58,159
you guys listening

1847
01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:58,960
um

1848
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,719
i don't know if lou was still speaking

1849
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:02,560
on the celebrity review

1850
01:10:07,750 --> 01:10:03,920
if he is

1851
01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:11,830
last last chance last call questions

1852
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:13,600
did anyone talk about the 23 minute

1853
01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:14,800
video nope

1854
01:10:20,709 --> 01:10:16,560
nobody has spoken about the 23-minute

1855
01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:20,719
video uh i think lou is speaking soon

1856
01:10:26,229 --> 01:10:24,159
ufos and nukes were a very brief part of

1857
01:10:27,669 --> 01:10:26,239
a couple of conversations

1858
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:27,679
um

1859
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,719
they didn't get into uh

1860
01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:32,560
they didn't get into what it could mean

1861
01:10:35,590 --> 01:10:34,080
but i'm sure if you ask the panel they

1862
01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:35,600
would see it differently you know one

1863
01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:37,679
group one i would see one you know mark

1864
01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:39,040
would see it as

1865
01:10:42,550 --> 01:10:41,120
them trying to tell us to stop our nukes

1866
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:42,560
because we're gonna blow ourselves up

1867
01:10:45,350 --> 01:10:43,920
and then i would think marshall summers

1868
01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:45,360
would say yeah

1869
01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:46,800
they're trying to get us from stop

1870
01:10:49,990 --> 01:10:48,239
blowing up the planet because they need

1871
01:10:52,229 --> 01:10:50,000
to plant it after we're gone and they

1872
01:10:54,149 --> 01:10:52,239
wipe us out so

1873
01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:54,159
um

1874
01:10:58,229 --> 01:10:56,159
and i think

1875
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:58,239
robert salas is supposed to have a press

1876
01:11:01,830 --> 01:10:59,840
conference he's raising money for that

1877
01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:01,840
or of an event or documentary i'm not

1878
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:03,440
sure which one it was

1879
01:11:07,270 --> 01:11:04,320
um

1880
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,709
6 21

1881
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:11,510
and

1882
01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:19,590
you're welcome you're welcome

1883
01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:24,149
ray hernandez

1884
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:25,440
is coming up

1885
01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:27,920
at the conference and the free study and

1886
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:29,440
i know people have problems with that

1887
01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:30,719
study

1888
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:32,400
i don't know what to think

1889
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:34,800
i hear so many it's it's

1890
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:36,239
somebody said what am i getting out of

1891
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:38,400
this conference um that we don't know

1892
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:40,080
what the hell is going on that's what

1893
01:11:43,110 --> 01:11:41,920
i'm getting and if we don't get more

1894
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:43,120
data i don't know how we're going to

1895
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:44,560
figure out what's going on that's the

1896
01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:45,840
problem

1897
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:47,440
people who tell you they know what's

1898
01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:53,430
avoid folks like that i mean for the

1899
01:11:56,470 --> 01:11:55,280
most part i don't see that but i do get

1900
01:11:58,070 --> 01:11:56,480
people on twitter saying well this is

1901
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:58,080
what's going on and this is what's going

1902
01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:59,760
on i'm like all right i mean i don't

1903
01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:01,360
know so

1904
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:02,800
i'm gonna take a five minute break and

1905
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:05,840
then go do uh i probably won't do this

1906
01:12:08,709 --> 01:12:07,440
do this again tomorrow because i thought

1907
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:08,719
it was okay tonight better than

1908
01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:10,560
yesterday

1909
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:11,360
so

1910
01:12:15,990 --> 01:12:13,760
gonna go watch

1911
01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:16,000
ray hernandez i'm not sure if i'll take

1912
01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:18,000
notes or wait i'm not even sure if i'm

1913
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:19,920
gonna transcribe that i really need to

1914
01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:21,360
transcribe this

1915
01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:22,640
panel because i thought it was really

1916
01:12:26,390 --> 01:12:25,040
good to show all sides of people and

1917
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:26,400
there's no consensus on what we're

1918
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:28,000
dealing with i really

1919
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:30,000
think it was great of danny to ask

1920
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:31,520
people who had different views on what

1921
01:12:35,189 --> 01:12:33,600
we're dealing with especially since

1922
01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:35,199
he talks about trying to communicate

1923
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:37,199
with these beings all the time and mark

1924
01:12:42,070 --> 01:12:40,080
doing ce5 type stuff so you know i don't

1925
01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:42,080
know what mark's thinking but danny

1926
01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:43,840
seemed to enjoy the debate i mean he's a

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lawyer so he's used to it um but anyway

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all right thanks guys i will see you